Friday, March 13, 2009

AT OKANAGAN HOCKEY ACADEMY: PERCEPTION IS REALITY

Letter Percent 
A+ 95–100 
A  90-94 
A− 85-89 
B+ 80–84 
B  75-79 
B− 70-74 
C+ 65-69 
C  60–64 
C− 55–59 
D  50–54 
E or UN or I  0–49 (temporary) 
F  0–49 (permanent) 

A parent's perspective:

"Here's the grading scale. No wonder they tell you 80 some percent of the players get on the honor roll which is 70% and above. OHA makes a big deal out of it, yet being an academy player is practically a pass on school up there. You make it through school just fine, yet when you are complete you aren't prepared to go to College. 

And they don't add 15 points like someone said it more like maybe 3 to 5 to transfer to the USA based on the College accepting it. Penn High is a good school with good teachers, but is nowhere near the top schools in the US. They claim to be one of the top high schools in BC which is probably right, yet its all relative. No offense intended but it's not like BC is recognized as a great place of learning."

21 comments:

Anonymous said...

"Last semester 82% of OHA players were on the honor roll." This right off their home page on their website. These students were 70% and above. They don't bother telling you that. It basically means that 18% of their players were D and F students by US scoring standards. This is typical of OHA blowing their own horn without presenting ALL the facts. Another example of how they often embelish things.

Anonymous said...

Why don't you make a call to Harvard admissions, Princeton admissions, Yale admissions or even Pen High and find out what happens to grades when they are sent to the ivy league. This last blog post doesn't have any fact to it once again. Your right obviously that means 18% of students had 70% or below, until you realize what there actual grades are this doesn't mean a thing. Again, your just some punk that posts every topic, posts every comment because you control the entire blog. There is no validity to one person using an anonymous name to post every single item on here and claiming that so many parents are writing to you. Everything is your own writing which makes this so funny. So congrats, you have no life, can hit the refresh button and use a bunch of facts that are all made up. Like I said before which you didn't post, this site has no validity to it at all.

Anonymous said...

I think the "blogger" said Pen HS is a good school. It's fair to say that it is not a great school. I would like to see how some of the SAT scores came out over the last few years for OHA students. That is a hard math number.

Anonymous said...

My son went to OHA 3 years ago. Count us with the rest of dissatisfied Ex-OHA people. My son got academic awards at Pen HS. He is a good student but before OHA he never won an academic award in his life. When he returned to the US he was loaded with homework every night and his first report card in US public school was 2.0 average. As for his two years at OHA, he never once opened a book and got straight A's while missing several weeks of school for travel each of his two years there.

My son finished up HS last year and is now traveling for a year before beginning college. We also found when we returned to the US that many of the courses he took at OHA were not transferrable to his HS so he had to play catch up in academic subjects.

If hockey is your only focus, I suppose OHA is as good as any other "prep" academy in Canada. However, if academics are important, I would advise parents to stick with US prep hockey schools which are much more academically sound.

Anonymous said...

My son is doing better Academically, and always has help if and when is needed.

Anonymous said...

What about Kolodychuk's 1580 on the SATs? Doesn't mean much??

Anonymous said...

no it doesn't mean much at all, actually. he's the one-in-a-million genius who can get a 98 average taking all ap classes while never studying. its not like oha magically made him academically gifted. and with all due respect, i see him going to oxford or yale on a rhode's scholarship, not an athletic one.

Anonymous said...

Hahaha..i'm pretty sure that we have all agreed on here already that he'll be going to school for academics not anything else. Someone wanted to know the boys SAT's scores, so there's one for you. If you have SAT Prep classes run by teachers and the boys don't do well, who's fault is that?

Anonymous said...

To be fair, if your son is in AP courses at Pen HS (a public school), it is probably adequate preparation for university level studies. One should be concerned, however, with the amount of travel and therefore, the amount of classroom time missed. These boys miss an awful lot of school in the pursuit of their hockey aspirations.

Anonymous said...

There is little concern by the school or the academy as to how much school they miss. Dave Nachoney is a top notch person and excellent with the players. The problem is there is only one of him. The majority of the boys will find themselves not prepared to attend a quality college in the US.

Anonymous said...

Dave is a class act! Absolute top shelf guy!

Anonymous said...

The boys have designated study periods when they are on the road, when its possible Nackoney, Terris or Araki join them on the road. Jay O'Leary is a certified teacher, so they do still have the support to keep current with their studies.

Anonymous said...

Why do you people keep posting false and misleading info. I look into your accusations and everytime I find you are the ones misinformed. Canadas education system is far superior in everyway to the US system. Why do you think all the kids from Canada head down there on scholarships, way easier to get in. To make the honour Roll at Pen High it is a 3.0 average. Period. Thats tougher than most of your Colleges. Canada ranks 4th in the World in education campared to USA 18th.and that is based on 15 year old kids.
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/EDUCATION/11/26/education.rankings.reut/index.html

Try getting your facts straight before looking the fool. Also all you people with non-transferable credits and courses that are easy. Shouldn't you have looked into what your son was taking at school. Your son was getting A's in clothing PE and simpleton Math and then goes home and has to take real school, go figure he was having trouble. Did you think you were sending your kid to a hockey Acadeny to get an education. OHA knows that your here for hockey and they make sure you take courses to ease your work load if you can't handle real school. Its not the school that has the problem its the 5 parents that continue to write into this blog whose children needed better parenting.

You send your son to a Hockey school in another Country and whine that his education wasn't good enough and The USA is so much better, give your head a shake. Also your grading school you have posted on the front is not what is used at PEN HIGH.

Anonymous said...

with all due respect to Dave, the study hall concept for road travel is nice but it actuality, it doesn't happen. The beginning of the year travel I would say they have the study halls and put up a good front. As the year wears on the study halls stop. Eventually the kids don't even bring their books.

Pen HS is a good decent school and if the students target AP course work, they will be prepared for college. Speaking as someone who has completed a doctorate, I can say that the Canadian system while sufficient, is certainly not superior to top US schools. In some areas you could argue equivalence or perhaps superiority for either side. At the end of the day, it is up to the student to perform, or not.

OHA is much more focused on hockey achievement than academic achievement. If your son is a good athlete and student, I would recommend some of the better academic prep schools in the US. If your son is average academically, Pen HS is more than sufficient academically.

As for the quality of hockey preparation at OHA, it is adequate but I believe there are better programs out there both in the US and Western Canada. For families like ours that attended OHA 2 or more years ago, we got the program when it was small and the owners were anxious to please families to build their own name. Now that they have a name behind them, they seem to have lost their way and the quality of the program has suffered tremendously.

Anonymous said...

I am a former OHA player who played for a few years there and had very little complaints. Most of these issues are true, BUT only to a certain degree. Most of the issues you have listed have been blown way out of proportion and made into something way bigger than it really is. As for the academic issue, I missed a lot of school for hockey and was not screwed over on being on the bottom team. The coaches did not let players get away with bad grades, I would say about 1/3 of the games we had a player sitting in the stands due to bad grades. I have left back to the US to play juniors while still in high school and I'm American and the schooling in Canada was definitely tougher than here in the US.

Anonymous said...

OHA was a lot better place when it was smaller. They managed everything better and had a good program. It's gone way downhill. This was driven by the greed to get more teams and generate more money. Their quality has gone to the dogs. As far as the schooling part, say Penn High is better than USA quality high schools is a joke. They are nice people there who do a good job, yet the academics in better USA public schools is better. The only reason you would go to OHA and spend that kind of money is to get the very best hockey training available. They DON'T provide it. Most of all I have read on this site is true and pretty accurate. I don't think most of it is overblown as stated. It is what it is.

Anonymous said...

Look up international school rankings and you'll see where canada is 5th in the world and the us is 18th. So I'm not sure where anyone gets facts from.

Anonymous said...

Yeah right. Everyone knows thats where all the great minds come out of Canada! People are flocking there from all over the world to attend their colleges. That must be why James Kerr is going to Princeton and Erica Kromm went to Brown because they couldn't make the cut in Canada colleges. lol

Anonymous said...

when they transfer the coursesgrades to U.S. schools your grade point average is not all that counts. Better grades in better classes gets you more of a boost compared to U.S. schools. Harvard is not going to boost your marks just because u got 100 in foods or planning. They do like students who excel in Ap classes though. One boy who left OHA, (not to name names) applied for a U.S top engineering school on the east coast and they considered his marks 10 percent higher with courses like chem 12 ap and physics 12 ap. Like I said its all about the courses, I'm getting sick of how ignorant some of the people are on this sight

jmackenzie said...

"Everyone knows thats where all the great minds come out of Canada! People are flocking there from all over the world to attend their colleges. That must be why James Kerr is going to Princeton and Erica Kromm went to Brown because they couldn't make the cut in Canada colleges. lol"
Ivy League schools are better than any Canadian school. You can't even try to deny that. Princeton and Brown together accept around 12,000 kids a year. Compared to UBC, for example, who accepts triple that a year. It is pretty tough to get into an Ivy League school, harder than any Canadian school. Glad you still abbreviate with "lol's". That is so intelligent!

Anonymous said...

Its the american way. A few (very few) get to go to the Harvards or Browns and the rest like this blog owner are stuck at Bubba state college. Where they recieve a great under water basket weaving degree. Fact: Canada on average has a way better school system than the states. Numbers don't lie. Unfortunatley in the states you have this blog owner to bring down your average. Sorry.